Ashes Ashes
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Ep 12 – Up in Smoke

wildfires and us

Episode 12 - "Up in Smoke"

In forests, grasslands, and landscapes around the world, poor wildland management and climate change have combined to produce some of the most explosive fires ever seen. This trend is getting worse, and as we continue to push development into these areas, the need to extinguish fires that threaten human life and property rises. But paradoxically, fighting fires is a big piece of the puzzle in how we got here in the first place.

We are joined by Tommy Nease and Tyler Marlow, both with professional Forest Service experience, to help make sense of this frightening trend.

Chapters

  • 00:00 The Great Fire
  • 02:59 Intro
  • 06:48 The Forest Service
  • 09:38 Hurry Up and Wait?
  • 10:26 Engine Work
  • 12:05 Dangers
  • 13:44 Hand Crews vs Engine Crews
  • 14:42 Setting Fires?
  • 15:39 Prescribed Fires
  • 16:59 Fire is Unpredictable
  • 20:16 Too Much Development?
  • 23:21 What Should People do?
  • 25:45 Fire as a Natural Disaster
  • 26:18 Education?
  • 27:24 Rescuing the Governor
  • 28:23 Send in the Calvary?
  • 30:59 Why Should We Care?
  • 35:34 Send Off
  • 38:21How Did We Get Here?
  • 40:24 Climate Change
  • 44:23 Fire is Good
  • 46:40 Overcrowded Forests
  • 48:46 California
  • 51:49 Slave Labor
  • 53:42 An Investment that Really Caught Fire
  • 55:41 Worldwide
  • 59:58 Climate Feedback
  • 01:01:23 What can we do?
  • 01:05:33 Wrap Up

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